[ge-talk] Feedback on R2 Deskbar Mockup
Brian Hague
alphaseinor at gmail.com
Thu Dec 14 15:34:53 EST 2006
I've modified the deskbar, and made a more "proper" very large version
(should be just about the largest size allowable. I did this all with the
help of autocad (my other love) and... you guessed it... paint. Since it
took a while to explain the disks icon, I decided to leave it off, since it
would just let more confusion reign...
http://haiku-os.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=7309#7309
Hope you enjoy!
alphaseinor
On 12/13/06, Michael Phipps <mphipps1 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Brian Hague wrote:
> > Ari Haviv,
> > The zSnake is a way of traversing the file structure, if you right click
> on
> > a drive, then you can traverse without double clicking on folders...
> >
> > Michael Phipps,
> >
> > Would it be more useful if we changed to text with an icon (like what is
> > seen on tracker?) as default? should we make it so the icons can be
> changed
> > on the deskbar by the user? That is good insight...
>
> That would be better.
>
> > The lack of wasted space is to make a "friendly" interface to beginners,
> > While allowing geeks like us to get the information we need quickly.
> >
> > Actually the Red in the menu is to show the program is not responding
> (and
> > therefore crashed), the X in the menu on the crashed application is for
> > killing the application (instead of
> vulcan-death-gripping-the-ctrl-alt-del
> > then hunting on what app failed) It's kinda like melding the application
> > manager with the deskbar.
>
> How do you tell if a program is not responding?
>
> > I'll see if I can come up with a better solution other than sideways
> text.
>
> Good! :-D
>
> > Deskbar icons? what deskbar icons... oh yeah... those... hrm... next
> > mockup?
>
> :-) Looking forward to it.
>
> > Actually the scrollbar is up against the edge of the screen, but you can
> > use
> > the scroll wheel to scroll through the applications as well (should be
> > smooth animated).
>
> Good use of Fitt's Law.
>
> >> The colors are kind of ugly, but I assume that is part of working in
> >> paint.
> > 16.7 million colors, and I pick the ugliest... That's what I get for
> using
> > the default set of colors. Just because it's beautiful in Hex doesn't
> mean
> > it's beautiful in RGB... Thanks M$
> > The idea is to have the colors changeable... do we have gradient/alpha
> > blending?
>
> I think so.
>
> > Everyone I know (in the windows world at least) likes to keep icons in a
> > certain order. for an example, there is a woman in our company who likes
> to
> > keep outlook first, then word, then excel, then our in house POS .net
> > software. If outlook crashes, then she shuts everything down, and starts
> > back up. So she goes hunting for the icons in the most recently used
> > applications (sometimes it's not there...) then she calls the helpdesk
> to
> > figure out where it is (start... click... all programs... click...
> > microsoft
> > office... click... word... click)... I'm glad I'm not on the helpdesk.
> Most
> > users only use a small handfull of applications "all of the time". If
> she
> > could put (in the right order) Outlook, Word, Excel, and the POS .net
> > app...
> > on the taskbar, and not waste any more space (like quicklaunch, which
> she
> > gets confused with) then she would be set.
>
> Sounds like her start menu organization is the real problem.
>
> > Another idea is to blend the color of the deskbar to the non-running
> > programs so they don't have a border, just the icon sitting on the
> deskbar
> > without a background (showing the user that it's dormant) then use the
> grey
> > background to show the running application. I haven't quite decided...
> and
> > that's why I need some feedback...
>
> I can't picture that, ATM. Fire up paint... :-)
>
> > The zsnake is there to traverse the file structure... there are a few
> > changes... listed in the posts... mainly the timing, and duration of the
> > submenus.
>
> I understand that it is there to traverse the file structure. I don't
> understand why it should be there. That is, why is that better than using
> tracker windows?
>
> > Thanks 1,000,000
>
> Thank you!
>
> Michael
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