[ge-talk] Feedback on R2 Deskbar Mockup
Ari Haviv
arielbhaviv at gmail.com
Sun Dec 17 20:14:08 EST 2006
Waldemar Kornewald wrote
>
> I can't discuss it ATM and we don't yet have any real solution or RFC,
> but I think what you're imagining is far too simple. You will of
> course have structure, but the whole point of tagging is that these
> structures are more flexible and dynamic. For example, when searching
> for music you could instruct Haiku to structure it by Genre and then
> by Artist and it would behave like a folder tree. It would go even
> further. The system could connect your person files with the emails
> and files originating from or relating to this person and the
> attribute could indicate the type of relation (similar to ontologies).
> Haiku could know all relations between your data and use that to
> visualize it in more flexible ways. Well, I hope that this at least
> gives you a small idea of what we want to achieve.
I hope that it would organize everything for me automatically so that i
won't have to mess with it too much. The idea is the OS should macro
organize with general accepted tags (ie music, games) and I will micro
organize with my own tags (players, songs, genre, strategy games).
Chances are most people won't take the time to think about their own tags.
but their desktop shouldn't be a total mess.
Our weakness can be our strength because we can set UI guidelines from a
pretty small app base.
> (also I hate app installation. File managers are pretty much useless
> > because you need to go to "add or remove programs" in control panel in
> > order to really delete anything properly)
> >
> > Apps should "know" what they are with tags. A game should identify
> > itself to the OS as a game. When you get that game, it should
> > automatically go into programs/games. Video apps into programs/video,
> > etc. (I think there should be a standard list but not totally sure if
> > the bebits toplevel is ideal. I'd add education and merge geek toys with
> > utilities)
>
> Please read this article (it's pretty technical, though):
> http://haiku-os.org/node/108
> We will eliminate installation for most applications. It will be as
> simple as downloading or copying the app. After that, it will
> automatically be known to the system. Just open the app (with Tracker
> or Deskbar) to run it. No installation.
one of the problems is that we have a file manager, tracker, explorer,
desktop or whatever and if we delete a file, everything is messed up. it's
messed up if i try to move file around. So we need another app , an
uninstaller, to do it. That's stupid. It should be integrated so that if you
see an icon for an app on your desktop, you should be able to get rid of it
by throwing it in the trash.
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