[ge-talk] title tabs...what to do with them?

Ari Haviv arielbhaviv at gmail.com
Thu Jan 4 18:45:30 EST 2007


Right, we spend so much messing around with windows that it throws away all
the speed of new CPUs and optimizations. We need to look at the big picture
and come up with an elegant solution instead of a patch or a gee-whiz idea
in search of a problem. Unfortunately, this isn't so easy to come up with...

A good idea might be to take pieces of paper representing windows to see
what the OS should do when you move them around

I was reading up on the new Office 2007 ribbon interface. Microsoft noticed
that most people use one app at a time maximized. They designed their new UI
for those users. I couldn't understand this...I never use full screen unless
I'm watching a movie. Perhaps a reason for running maximized is because it's
too hard to deal with moving windows around that get cluttered.

On 1/4/07, Waldemar Kornewald <wkornewald at haiku-os.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I don't like the whole "vertical" and "fusing" tabs idea. I think that
> this is the wrong solution for the actual problems:
>
> * The window/app concept doesn't scale (you can't manage lots of
> windows, easily).
>
> * We close applications to make it easier to deal with so many windows
> (the OS is limiting us and forces us to clean up!). A good solution
> would suggest keeping everything open.
>
> * We have to take care of application state: running or closed. Why?
> There should not be a difference. The OS should take care of
> everything.
>
> * We have to *fine-tune* window positions although it would often be
> sufficient to have approximate screen locations.
>
> * The computer should automate window management (including
> positioning) as much as possible, but it doesn't.
>
> * The taskbar is too dynamic. It's difficult to remember app positions
> in the list because they change too quickly and the app list is
> ordered by *time*. A good alternative might use more static and
> *spatial* arrangement, so our human brain can remember app positions.
>
> * Often, full-screen apps would be preferred.
>
> * When you need to interact with two apps (drag-n-drop) you must often
> rearrange windows (or in WinXP you can move the mouse over the taskbar
> to active the target window).
>
> * BeOS doesn't have a real full-screen mode like WinXP.
>
> * ... add more problems, so we can try to build a full solution ...
>
> I don't see how the tabs suggestion solves those problems well enough
> and I think that only experts would use this feature.
>
> Bye,
> Waldemar Kornewald
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