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Niklas Nisbeth
niklas at nisbeth.dk
Sun Jan 7 09:25:05 EST 2007
> I'm also not a big fan of addons in general for other reasons. Which
> is
> surprising because I love them. I love the power and flexibility. But
> i have
> come to the conclusion (though while kicking and screaming!) they
> cause some
> pretty big problems (they are true for firefox as well):
> 1) lack of security and quality because instead of dealing with 1
> system,
> you now have to test and check 1 system plus all these little
> independent
> parts with bugs and dependencies.
> 2) usability goes down because now you have all kinds of funky UI's
> that
> don't work together. Addons are usually dumped in a long list with
> their own
> options dialogs and menus
> 3) it's very hard to localize the OS+addons.
> 4) usually what happens, you update the OS or firefox and all those
> addons
> now don't work.
> 5) most people won't know these addons exist or what are the good
> ones. They
> have to do a lot of work to get a full featured system
> 6) it's harder for sysadmins to manage and train when they don't know
> how
> the OS is expected to work
Mm, I see what you mean... but generally Tracker add-ons should not
require any configuration, and only rarely have any sort of GUI, they
should just do a simple obvious task to some files. I can see how for
Firefox add-ons it might be different, but for Tracker add-ons I don't
think it's an issue.
> This is why i think in the long run, a browser like Flock, which
> tries to
> integrate many features in a nice way may be a better browser than
> firefox
> It's also why linux is a mess, as it is based on lots of parts
> cobbled
> together such as the linux kernel and then X from another group and
> gtk and
> cairo and gnome and then a distro's package manager...
>From my own experience Linux is not necessarily a mess (except for X,
of course, X is a horrible), if you don't count the package management
problems which BSDs don't tend to have. OpenBSD is certainly not a
mess, it's actually very pleasant - cos the ports tree (software that's
not part of the base distribution) only gets updated when you update
your system with the basic libraries, there's no dependency hell (and
cos software gets installed with sane defaults)...
TBH most of the problems with Tux-on-the-Desktop stem from the fact
that quite a lot of the apps out there simply aren't very good.
> On 1/5/07, niklas at nisbeth.dk <niklas at nisbeth.dk> wrote:
> >
> > Exactly. You'd put yer all your project related docs in a folder,
> > right
> > click the folder and use the "Launch all in this folder" tracker
> > add-on.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Ari Haviv" <arielbhaviv at gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 03:51:40 -0500
> > To: glasselevator-talk at bug-br.org.br
> > Subject: Re: [ge-talk] icon "groups"
> >
> > >well, unlike a startup folder with a browser in it, it wouldn't
> > > open a
> > blank
> > >browser. it would open up the browser set to load a certain page
> > > or group
> > of
> > >tabs. or a word processor with a certain doc. This way, if you
> > > have a
> > >project, you just click once and you have everything you need
> > >
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