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Paul van Nugteren
pmvannugteren at eml.cc
Sun Jan 7 12:44:30 EST 2007
you seem a bit overreacting, choice is always good but it takes 1 team
to make a unified os, take redhat etc., but yes, for UI consistency,
don't choose linux.
For the trash, you could make a special folder ~/trash, have a shell
script for remove wich would not delete but move to trash:)
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 10:45:30 -0500, "Ari Haviv" <arielbhaviv at gmail.com>
said:
> On 1/7/07, Niklas Nisbeth <niklas at nisbeth.dk> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Mm, I see what you mean... but generally Tracker add-ons should not
> > require any configuration, and only rarely have any sort of GUI, they
> > should just do a simple obvious task to some files. I can see how for
> > Firefox add-ons it might be different, but for Tracker add-ons I don't
> > think it's an issue.
>
>
> Even if they don't have their own GUI...my point is that they don't
> integrate with our GUI. Functionality is placed ad hoc, dumped in the
> addons
> menu. You have to remember what part of total functionality is built in
> and
> what is add on.
>
> As for linux being a mess, it's all about the lack of integration. For
> example, you pointed out that unix doesn't have the trash concept (we
> don't
> either through the command line because it's also taken from unix). It
> doesn't matter if all the unix DE's have it..they have nothing to do with
> rest of the OS.
>
> "you can have your pointy clicky icons but no way are you going to touch
> our
> terminal!" And things will never change
>
> The linux user will say his system is less bloated than ours because he
> doesn't need a fancy GUI. He can get by with just a terminal that he can
> run
> off a VT100. OK but for those who do want a nice UI, they will find the
> unix
> solution to be much more bloated with kde, gnome and regular x apps all
> trying to work together.
>
> That's really the fundamental problem and can't be solved simply by
> replacing X windows with "Y". And if someone comes up with Y, you'll have
> desktops with KDE apps, gnome apps, regular x apps and now Y apps because
> there is nobody who can say "ok let's all switch together"
>
>
> > >From my own experience Linux is not necessarily a mess (except for X,
> > of course, X is a horrible), if you don't count the package management
> > problems which BSDs don't tend to have. OpenBSD is certainly not a
> > mess, it's actually very pleasant - cos the ports tree (software that's
> > not part of the base distribution) only gets updated when you update
> > your system with the basic libraries, there's no dependency hell (and
> > cos software gets installed with sane defaults)...
> > TBH most of the problems with Tux-on-the-Desktop stem from the fact
> > that quite a lot of the apps out there simply aren't very good.
> >
> >
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