[ge-talk] Vision for a usable commandline

Ari Haviv arielbhaviv at gmail.com
Thu Jan 11 21:19:02 EST 2007


Google may have 1 command but on a pc you want search and replace. You
want to find email addresses throughout your documents in certain
folders. Not so easy with a GUI because you are really searching for
something at something.someextension

People want automation -especially those not-geeks who use Photoshop.
Apple gives them applescript and we give them bash as the default
scripting language and send them off in the dark. That was my main
problem. I see lots of cool things in www.scriptbuilders.net and I
wish we had something like that too...though I admit it is still power
user stuff.


On 1/11/07, Niklas Nisbeth <niklas at nisbeth.dk> wrote:
> Bad analogy. A GUI needs text input, that doesn't make it a command
> line app. Google only has one command, "search". You're just supplying
> the arguments to it, just like I am currently supplying arguments to
> BeMail's "send mail" command...
>
> Improving local search has more to do with making applications use
> attributes more, and adding file contents indexing.
>
> I agree with Waldemar, an improved object-oriented command line shell
> isn't a project for Haiku R1 or R2, even if it is something we could
> make use of.
>
>
> > Yes of course the GUI comes first.
> >
> > but one of the most popular websites is basically a CLI. It's called
> > google.com :)
> > So if there is any priority it would be on improving local search.
> >
> > On 1/11/07, Waldemar Kornewald <wkornewald at haiku-os.org> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 1/11/07, Ari Haviv <arielbhaviv at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It's good to study different cli's just as it is good to study
> > > > different gui ideas.
> > > > Why should all the innovation be focused solely on the GUI?
> > >
> > > Please keep in mind that our focus is the desktop user. It isn't
> > > our
> > > primary goal to innovate the CLI. We want to make computers easy to
> > > use for everyone (not just geeks) and with the CLI we will only
> > > reach
> > > a limited audience. In contrast, the GUI will be used by all of our
> > > users and we have a **lot** of work to do if we want to achieve our
> > > goal of a seriously easy to use operating system.
> > >
> > > Before we invest time in trying to improve the CLI we must get the
> > > GUI right.
> > >
> > > Bye,
> > > Waldemar Kornewald
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