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[Ari Haviv]

Now that's just not fair. All *I* asked for was a new CLI.
:)

On 1/11/07, Waldemar Kornewald <wkornewald at haiku-os.org> wrote:

>
>
> About alternative programming languages:
> This will be a very tough decision. Personally, I'd like to go much
> further than a simple C++ improvement. As the next step, I'd like to
> have
> * a powerful type annotation system
> * type inferencing
> * a very simple syntax without any redundancies (e.g.: no annoying semicolons)
> * a strong emphasize on multi-threading
> * (optional?) garbage collection
> * as much productivity as possible
> * flexible syntax and more powerful macros
> * maybe well-suited for distributed applications (the Internet is growing)
> * good component system
> * better object system (e.g.: based on traits instead of interfaces or
> class based multiple inheritance)
> * maybe integrated testing framework
> We could still use C for highly performance-critical code. I don't
> know about the others, though. At least, I find D much too overloaded.
> My current favorite (unfinished) language is Fortress (developed by
> Sun Inc.: http://fortress.sunsource.net/), but it's pretty
> complicated.
>
> Then, I think that it's finally time for a language that is well
> integrated with an IDE:
> * on-the-fly compiler error detection (like when you make spelling
> mistakes in MS Word)
> * you operate on syntax tree instead of character based source (you
> don't need to care about source code layout and coding guidelines,
> anymore)
> * integrated modeling tools (UML, finite state machine, etc.)
> * integration with documentation tools (but not enforcing to have docs
> in the source code editor like with Doxygen; take a look at a Lisp
> Machine to get an idea for a possible solution)
> * integrated distributed SCM
> * good tools for code refactoring
> * interactive code testing (like with dynamic programming languages)
> * tools for more elaborate correctness analysis (and source
> annotations beyond type safety)
> * ...
> We could also get inspiration from Smalltalk IDEs, Strongtalk, and
> IntelliJ IDEA.
>
> Probably I'm asking for too much, but I think that developers should
> fully concentrate on application logic instead of syntax and language
> quirks. We should be able to use the tools that are best suited for
> the task at hand and not be forced into a limited text editor window.
> We're still in the stone age of software development.
>
> Bye,
> Waldemar Kornewald
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