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[Paul van Nugteren]

I could't find any working webpages, also openbinder.org seems non
working.

I've found and looked at some openbinder stuff from D. Hackborn on
osnews. And I've looked at the fish shell.

The basic problem I see is this; if you sit down and have a shell in
front of you and you know nothing about commands or whatever you can do
what do you do? Remember when you were a kid and the first time you had
a shell in front of you and you said "bloody stupid moron" meaning the
computer "do something!" and it replied; "syntax error" WOW! That was
usefull info! And it sure made you want to use that computer more! (not)

Now I bet a lot of you know, use or have used emacs. In my emacs I have
here, I have a function  "emacs psychiater", I tried that once, and it
was great fun until I had to do something useful. Imagine being a kid
again and you sit in front of the computer and you type in a question, a
silly thing like "hello how are you I want to do something fun!" And the
computer replies "I'm fine, how are you? And what is fun for you? Or
something like that, I'm sure you'd go Wow! it can talk! Now imagine
your grandmother and she types down, "internet" and the computer would
reply "internet?" Here or some suggestions: you want to browse the
interenet? You want to communicate with someone? Looking for infor? Or
can you specify that more? Type internet and then some verb. etc etc.

The problem I'm getting at is not such one as an AI system but more a
question like, "I want to do something, but I don't now which tools will
do that for me" I want to rename some files, sent an email, make some
music but I haven't got the slightest idea that I'd really like to type
mv, thunderbird &, garageband (that's why I'd like to have a description
together with a name in eg. deskbar/apps so you don't end up with VLC
but VLC dvdplayer, music player or just player.

Paul

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:03:18 -0500, "Michael Phipps"
<mphipps1 at rochester.rr.com> said:
> Paul -
> 
> If you can find any references to it, check out AmigaVision. It sounds
> like 
> a (1990) version of what you are talking about.
> 
> Michael
> 
> Paul van Nugteren wrote:
> 
> > Very true, many times I wanted to let the computer do my work (work on
> > multiple files) but then I discovered I had to make a batch, shell
> > script whatever, which cost me a lot of learning time, then I run
> > (tested) it on real data, thus deleting or changing those on the way, I
> > was not happy because of that. 
> > 
> > Simply put, I'd love to see a VISUAL programming interdace / GUI ala MS
> > Visio where the objects wouldn't be just graphics but be real objects
> > WITH functionality, i/o-ed by means of lines like a PCB or ala Visio.
> > You'd have conditional objs, loop objs variable holders etc. and to test
> > the 'program' you'd SEE the PATH it was taking going trough if then else
> > while objects. I would not be for really big programs but for the small
> > beginning or semi-pro user it would be a delight I bet!
> > 
> > Does something like this exist? I sure would like to know!
> > 
> > 
> > 
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