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[Paul van Nugteren]

Wow, this is actually a very good idea IMHO!

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:32:14 +0100, "Ronald Vos" <egregius at gmail.com>
said:
> >
> > Like I pointed out before, it should be like learning javascript on
> > the web. You see some examples and you gradually pick it up. Who
> > learned it just from reading a book? But it only works if the language
> > is widespread, consistent, simple and english based.Vms dcl,
> > Applescript and rebol could be good as models.
> 
> 
> What if programs, in addition to their normal functioning, output the
> commands with the right programhooks needed to repeat the action you just
> performed to some sort of 'log-view window'.
> 
> Say you copy a file, then in the log-view window the correct command
> complete with correct syntax and the source + destination used appear.
> Or, taking the example from
> http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/08-scripting/,
> when you move the window of StyledEdit to a different location on screen,
> the log-view window shows:
> 
> hey StyledEdit set Frame of Window "Foo" to \
> 	"BRect($80, $80, $558, $700)"
> 
> (no clue if the values used are realistic, and a facility like 'hey'
> would
> need to become part of the standard tool repertoire)
> 
> The example used isn't the most exciting one possible, but clicking on
> buttons generally causes BMessages to be sent, and these would be
> exposed.
> 
> Result: Computer user can see what he needs to type in to do something
> similar next time, using a bit of intelligence (like figuring out what he
> needs to change). Perhaps add in a way to automagically call up help on
> any
> highlighted words / parameters if you want to go the extra mile.
> 
> 
> <superoptimistic mode>ideally ideally ideally the whole scripting
> > language should be localizable so that instead of typing "if" you'd
> > type in the equivalent in your own language. Examples would be
> > "babelized"
> > Why should you have to know english in order to use a computer? </mode>
> 
> 
> Problem with localised commands is that 'help-files' or previously gained
> knowledge sometimes pre-supposed the english versions. Setting up
> localised
> 'alternates' seems like a pure win. Although commands like 'mv' seem to
> defy
> localisation :)
> 
> 
> >
> > > The problem I'm getting at is not such one as an AI system but more a
> > > question like, "I want to do something, but I don't now which tools will
> > > do that for me" I want to rename some files, sent an email, make some
> > > music but I haven't got the slightest idea that I'd really like to type
> > > mv, thunderbird &, garageband (that's why I'd like to have a description
> > > together with a name in eg. deskbar/apps so you don't end up with VLC
> > > but VLC dvdplayer, music player or just player.
> >
> > Well, most people would agree that if you want to rename something
> > you'd type in "rename" instead of "mv" or "$.?$%$$^//!"
> > i think if you want to search for audio apps you would search the mime
> > filetype database
> 
> 
> Building in a keyword recogniser coupled to 'helpful suggestions' has the
> possibility to be of great help and to infuriate users :)



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