[ge-talk] [haiku-development] Re: Notification Server?

[Axel Dörfler]

"Jonas Sundström" <jonas at kirilla.com> wrote:
> > But certainly not as important as our few other deviations
> > from R5, like the layout library.

Just to set it straight: the layout engine is not supposed to become 
public API in R1.

> Lots of people have suggested simple ideas and been turned down. I 
> would guess that all the current deviations from the "Just R5" 
> doctrine 
> have been done by core developers (for lack of a better term) and 
> none 
> by anyone not having commit rights. *grumble* I suppose it makes me 
> seem a little ridiculous, but sometimes I do think it's unfair what 
> gets in and what doesn't.
> 
> Discussion often fails, but it seems like the project rewards those 
> who 
> simply commit. Of course, it may be that some discussion takes place 
> that I have missed, and that people don't just commit without having 
> asked their peers if its a good idea.

It's probably true that those who do are rewarded (which isn't too 
surprising, though) - but don't think you'll find everything that is on 
the Haiku image now will end up being part of R1 (for example, googlefs 
is a candidate for removal IMO).
Beyond that, there are only few and subtle API extensions in Haiku 
AFAICT (or do remember right now). Are you thinking of something in 
particular?

You'll always have to find a balance of what people want to do, and the 
stuff that has to be done. There is little point in cloning R5 exactly 
- it must at least run on current hardware, and while reimplementing 
its API, it also doesn't make sense to copy all of its shortcomings 
when a better way takes just as long (but is more rewarding for those 
who actually do the work and the end result). And since every little 
detail needs attention, anyway, you do the math :-)

> Yeah, post-R1 will be interesting. Like the Chinese sign (or was it 
> Japanese?) for disaster -- part threat, part opportunity. IIRC.

Not sure about the symbol thing, but it would definitely fit :-)

Bye,
   Axel.